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Why I Draw Women Often

Journal Entry: Mon Oct 8, 2012, 9:21 PM

I recently got a message, and I will slightly reword it so as not to cause profane friction, nor will I state who it came from, but it read like this: "Why is everything you post regarding a woman? I think it's very sexist when the only thing you can draw are breasts and buttocks like it's the only thing in the world."

Okay, so by now, if you haven't been watching me for a good minute, you know that I really like to draw women, and I like portraying the female form, usually and often in a tasteful manner. I could hypothetically end that question there and just answer "I wasn't aware everything in my gallery was a woman or had breasts and a butt" and then post a picture or two of Rai Rivet... But I'm not going to do that. I'm going to explain my stance on drawing the female form and my adoration for it.

Disclaimer: None of these viewpoints are from a sexist POV just 'cuz I'm a guy. I'll try my best to keep a neutral ground on this.

First off: I think women are friggin' beautiful creatures. Some aren't that fortunate, but you know what I mean. (That goes both ways, there are some sexy dudes out there too, but not every dude can be Brad Pitt, jus' sayin'. It's just that the threshold for male sexiness is much lower than the threshold for lady sexiness.) They are elegant. Mainly walking pieces of art. They stimulate our minds by just the oft chance of seeing them, even if you're not focusing on them. A straight female will even be smitten with the particular shoes another lady is wearing or really appreciate another's figure. 

Hiding that in my art? Why would I? If someone's an appreciator of something, it'll show. And that's how I show it, of course.

Secondly, I draw in an anime fashion, and usually the first thing you think about when it comes to anime is fanservice and characters with straight-up boobs+butt only bodies. Though I appreciate the anime genre highly, I don't always agree with the specific body types portrayed in some of them. People who watch my work notice that I give my female characters more realistic and varied figures (even though folks like that person who commented thinks they're all just TnA just cuz there's a bunch of female pics in a gallery), and that I usually would like to mix it up. I'm sure it's one or two people out there who think I draw big boobs on every gal, but that's just mere gainsay. Though I have a preference for curvy types, even my skinnier and petite frames tend to have a bit of a curve to them. It's just my style.

Thirdly, I'm married to an awesome (and aesthetically, an awesomely-figured-like-my-art) lady who appreciates and understands basically the whole paragraph above. She knows I'm not buying into a specific agenda where it promotes sexism. It's definitely more of an appreciation. Plus, I know I disclaimed earlier, but I am a guy. I just like sexy stuff. Though there are girls out there who are just as into that stuff so... 

Fourthly, this whole uprising with the "unrealistic poses in comics". Yes, I agree with the context of a situation in storytelling that woman shouldn't be posed sexy "just because" when they're doing laundry, of course. But lighten up. It's all fiction when it really comes down to it. Lighten up. Take it easy. If you have an issue with it, don't read it and read comics that don't do it. Comparingly, if you have an issue with my gals, don't view them and view other artists that you don't have an issue with. S'all good.

Fifthly, it's because I want to draw them. I mean, I can, can I? (There is a such thing as free will, right?) It doesn't discredit me as an artist, does it not? Yeah, a lot of people can get away with just drawing boobs and butts and have no underlying principles underneath the boobs and butts and may get a spike in popularity. So let them. They'll get their fanbase, and they may even be comfortable with just that. At least I know my $#!% and learning many other things on the side. And at least I know that it's not the only thing I can draw... cuz you know, everything I draw is a tit... >__> 

Whoever is challenged with the feeling of being ostracized because you like to draw women over dudes, don't feel ostracized. But don't rely on it, either. Boobs and butts will only get your car started, but it won't take you to your destination. Practice everything else having to do with art, too. Backgrounds, Perspective, Lighting, Value, Form, Contrast, Composition, Storytelling, etc. Practice it while drawing girls, so what! You're learning! Take yourself seriously, but don't take yourself seriously in that manner at that point. I didn't. Definitely make your portfolio more varied, but if you're having fun, well fuggin' have fun.

And I call BS on few people in the industry telling others to draw only stuff other than women and very little amounts of women because really, it's either a) they can't do it well themselves and b) half the people already IN the industry does it. Just make sure you can show you CAN do other things, but don't let that change what you want to do for fun. A lot of cats I know stopped drawing because they were pigeon-holed so much about this subject that it killed their spirit and just gave up. If you're good, the people who have jobs in the real industry will know if you're good enough. Even though you like to draw women. Just look at Chris Sanders. The man is awesome.  

And Pin-Up is fun as a genre.

I rest my case. 

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ZadaMakara Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
GothicSilence Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2013  Student General Artist
I draw women alot :) haven't mastered the men yet
Vladdyboy Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I think you tend to exaggerate breast size in some characters
Robaato Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Note, "in some", definitely not all. :nod:
Vladdyboy Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
yep, that's a good thing, there's more variety in your work but I definitely see some large breast fetishism (a bit like ALL of Reiq's work) gives people the wrong impression.
Robaato Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Haha, I'm more of a butt guy than anything though. ;)
lulles Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2012
i just +watched you, and now not only i like your style, but i also like you as a person :)
DTJB Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ppppppfffffff. Why does ANYONE draw women? There's your answer.
MatiasSoto Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
:lol: It's tough to be as famous as you are man, you get this kind of ridiculous flack... I can't believe this people feel so inclined to bug an artist for this kind of stuff. Some people has too much time on their hands, and little proactive and creative notions of what to do with it.The funny thing is objectivity is a myth, and specially in art -in which is also pointless- as an heterosexual guy this person expects you to be neutral? What the hell is this ?? The UN convention?? It's not politics/economics/science... art is meant to be subjective! To demand otherwise is to absolutely ignore the base of any art form, it's that is a creation that is meant to appreciated by others, and said others are looking for the expression of the artist, their passions, their ideas, their loves,their fears, whatever! But anything but neutrality!!

And just as an end note I post a video that I just love about people and their stupid self-centered notions that their notions of "ofensiveness"(if that is even a word) that some believe gives them the power to be right about an issue just by bitching and moaning and screaming on how their sensibilities were utterly destroyed by a given object/subjet/exposition:
(I loved the "offensive Dogs barking in the background!" which was clearly not in the script :D)
Leonidas666 Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I can't draw women... it's a mental safety-lock I have... and I lost the key. :(
Lemalas Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2012  Student Writer
People throw the word "sexist" around too much. It's rare to find someone who actually knows what discrimination is nowadays.
MatiasSoto Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
True, and "I'm offended!" banner, is usually waved by the most thin skinned and quite often pretty ignorant people.
QuantumBurner84 Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2012  Student Digital Artist
your work is a great and varied style i notice the females but i also understand in my own "attempts" at proportionality with the human figure and females are a trial by fire to obtain the skill set for drawing a balanced let alone attractive and for me nigh impossiblity of drawing a character with character. You understand what i mean i.e how dunham isnt just a ventriloquist , Peanut is peanut , walter is walter , 2 very different characters that are extensions of him -- its not the best but the most applicable reference i can conjure.

i applaud your skill set and wish you good fortunate in the future especially with the ability to take criticism and not deign to have a b-fest but resolve your emotional state with a calm and collected form by having a sane rebuttal to an uninformed biased opinion of someone else
MicAwesome Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I noticed It says your playing Tales of Graces f, That Game is fricken Marvelous. I wish more people played It TT_TT
Tigris-Tusha Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2012
Proud of you Robaato! I think you handled this beautifully. To those who want to sit here and nit pick over something that has NOTHING to do with them, seeing as art is an expression of ones creative abilities, not of others, just dust off those shoulders.

One reason I follow your art is because I love how you represent the female figure. I find it tasteful and sexy. I myself am curvacious, and I love it! I personally have difficulty drawing men..which I intend to work on, but it's because of my fondness of a womans figure.

Even if it wasn't tasteful to my standards (which is basically just an opinion)...then who am I to say that your art is offensive? Shit...just keep trucking folks!!

Kudos to those who support you, you've got a lot of loving fans Rob!! This was a nice turnout of support :)
Cureball Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2012
Just got one thing to say: "haters gonna hate!"
That's just how it is these days, just keep doing your thing, some people are going to be offended/irritated/etc for just about anything that's remotely suggestive.
Lovers are gonna love, and haters gonna hate! So just ditched the haters and keep running your race!
CovaDax Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
In my opinion, they're your drawing and it's your preoperative what you put on them. Unless it's super over the top offensive (which it isn't) I don't see how it's anyone else's business. If you like to draw women, I don't see any harm. xD
HIIVolt-07 Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012
Hmmm... I don't really have anything to add, but I want to draw women, so I do... I try. You don't need me to tell you to keep doing what you do and ignore this person.

Yay Boobs! YAY Butts!
Prince-Pyro Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012
I'm sorry and I don't mean to bump any feminists but I completely agree with you. If you adore the female form(as any sane individual, be they man OR woman, most likely would) then you should draw what makes you happy. The female form is arguably the most enticing and captivating carnal reality known to us and throughout history it's been the subject of ridicule, lust and appreciation. And really, it's your own idea about what is pleasing. Some people appreciate the female body in different ways. Some people are hung up on feet, some faces, some lips, some boobs and most prominent, in your case, curves. However you view females is most likely based on past exposures and personal preference. I don't believe it's such conscious chauvinism as "Oh Yeah, check me out, I'm sketching me up some fyne big booty bitches today!" And there are people that think that way. It's all in what you like to see. And yes, while it may seem offensive to people with more modest sensibilities, women always have and always will be the subject of our sexual desire. I mean, I know we have the intelligence to make more socially "acceptable" decisions but despite how we view ourselves as a people, we ARE still animals so isn't that natural?

We all know women aren't always super curvy and well endowed but this isn't a political seminar on unjust depiction of women, it's art and like any other branch it's commonly bound to the concept of aesthetics. Some people find curvy women to be gross/fat, whatevs but as women are naturally curvy more than not, I find the fact that women always being portrayed in media as having to be stick thin in order to be considered sexy to be inaccurate and highly offensive. It's no different from having a strong female lead character as the focus of the story and women love the character because it goes against the grain of how women are often viewed and show the level of strength they possess without having to rely on their sexual attributes. With that said, just because a women is of a certain body type doesn't mean she's only there for sex. Does it stop her from being attractive? No. Does it mean we shouldn't admire her for being attractive? HELL no. If nothing else, I think the attention we give women says how much adoration we have for them because in many ways, women are everything in our society and 80-90% of great stories, fictional and historical involve the favor of a woman or the ramifications of some event involving a woman. I have a friend that always I mean, practically, ALWAYS picks girls on fighting games. I tease him sometimes for shits and giggles(though I almost always pick the girls, too XD) but that's who he likes to get in the role of and all he really draws is women, as well. People give him crap for it and I don't understand why. I draw women 9 times out of 10, as well. If you really think about it, why would we guys draw men so often? I'm familiar enough with the male body, thank you very much. And it isn't like I never draw them, I just prefer women. To me draw their bodies are more of wonder get done properly.

You may say, "Well, being a guy has nothing to do with it. There are lots of women who draw mostly women.", but that's because most women are comfortable with outwardly appreciating another females body whether they are gay/straight/bi, whatever. They don't have to worry about the stigma of he-must-be-gay-since-he-comments-on-men-bodies hanging over their head. In a way, women are granted the freedom to be emotionally free. But don't have a girl who appreciates male anatomy cuz then she is automatically a slut, right? A guy who enjoys showing off the female body is, by default, a pig, right? Riiiggghhttt... Just like you only draw chicks with big T&A, right? Guess all the guys I see you draw are just post-op transsexuals, then?:sarcasm: Oh puh-LZ! When it comes down to it, your brain, your decision, your aesthetic. And not to diminish the quality of previous statements but EFF the haters and keep moving! Sorry for the long comment. Felt a little strong about this one.
greenate Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Nice one man. For real.
Tesu-sama Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012
The ultimate trashing got dane that was a shame even if was by a troll to explain in that fashion down to the nitty gritty. Dude just got schooled. Man your work is boss freak home dude or girl keep drawing them beautiful Characters.
Frosty-Pandox Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012  Student Digital Artist
IF girls can draw half naked men, guy's can draw half naked girls. It's not about sexism, it's about loving the opposite sex :3 I understand perfectly and I'M A GIRL. I don't find it offensive at all, and that person probably had a stick up his/her ass. It's your art, it's not your fault that you like drawing women, Everybody will have there preference but it doesn't mean that that's the only thing they draw.
And it's true, girl's have a higher rank up there when it comes to "something sexy" but it's because it's natural, we're more curvy, we have boobs, there's MORE to work with XD I don't know why people find it sexist or offensive, women should appreciate the fact that men grovel over us LOL, we can so use it as an advantage HAHAHHAHA! jkjk(cuz there will always be men with different views on how they like their ladies) and besides like you said, It's just art and people need to chill. Rat Rage is awesome btw >3<
AngelCrusher Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012  Professional Filmographer
dont need to explain yourself man.

a ridiculous comment to give you, or anybody.
SirDerps-A-Lot Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
much agreed. much respect for you man :iconrespectplz:
Mudchaser Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012
Man, you never need to apologize for your magnificent work. I love your stuff. Keep it up.
Tedbob Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012
New Art Law: Everyone is now required to draw at least 1 male, female, african, asian, hispanic, russian, dog, cat, and imaginary person!
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DeimosComics Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012   General Artist
Artists create what they feel the need to create. End of story.
BrotherVirgil Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012  Student Digital Artist
You're a nicer guy than I am. Being a man who loves female beauty requires no apology or extra justification.
elsevilla Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
hhahaha you are a man men, i will be really worried if you only drew men, got tons of emails like that before, you are just in your stage of discovering women and perfecting them, when you think you nail it, you will move to other subject. The way to compensate the female audience its by doing this trick, take extra time in make up shoes and dresses. That will please the female audiences. Girls complain alot about boobs in girls, if we heard girls then we all just draw flat chicks. They do the same in regular paintings and nothing no complains, but why when you draw them in manga style, everyone complains?
Kr41 Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012   Digital Artist
lol, i could ask this instead ""Why ISN'T everything you post regarding a woman? I think it's very SEXY If the only thing you MAY draw are breasts and buttocks! I LOVE THIS as THEY WHERE the only things in the world!!"

Trolls will be troll, i get that fairly often i only ignore then and delete message and block the person so to save them the visual pain in the ass XD Don't give them any importance and keep up your awesome work :3
samuraidwight Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I'm really glad you posted this. I think most creators have been tempted to change something about their personal output for whatever reason. I think that it is utterly important to stick to what you want to create and the expression that is true within you. Your expression of beauty is a part of what sets you apart as an artist and why many of us are inspired to find an expression of our own that is equally as true. Thanks for sharing with us.
jbwarner86 Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012
Eloquently spoken, man :D
DazzleNovak Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
"Boobs and butts will only get your car started, but it won't take you to your destination" has to be the quote of the week at the very least. I'll think of it as I try to make real progress instead of near-endless slacking.

I do tire of people acting like women looking sexy in comics is some blatant sign of sexism in the industry. A lot of the ones that do are probably just trying to appear "sensitive" in order to get some action, while we have artists and writers out there(males included) who are happy to write strong female characters that are the dominating factor in their side's victories--one issue after another.
Lexyphoria Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012  Student Photographer
Honestly, I don't think you should really care about what people say about your art. Sure, you might like to draw sexy women, oh no what a taboo! There are a lot of other people out there who like to draw that as well, so you're not the only one. People shouldn't blame you for it!

Now, what of all the fangirls out there who only draw sexy half-naked men from their favourite animes etc etc? Shouldn't they be blamed as well then? The truth is, they're not. Because most of the people on dA like that kind of stuff, most of the people on dA are fangirls with huge fandoms for male characters.

So really, I think you should do your own thing. Go your own way and draw what you love. If people don't like it, then it's their problem! So, keep on rocking it, your art is really inspiring! ^__^
Robaato Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Thank you for your kind words! ^____^ It's definitely encouraging!
Manu-G Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Seriously, at least when you draw a female, I don't sense sexism on it. On the contrary, I feel you pay them enough respect.
Just keep doing what you usually do, it's great.
QDLA Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012
I'm totally with you on that Rob, I'm a straight girl and I really love the female curves, as show my Tyra. Actually as a woman I think it's more sexist of denying women their sexiness ! Nowadays people seems so jaded, on the internet that is, because "in real life", people goes on buying books of Luis Royo and comics with sexy ladies ;)
MREcartoonist Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
To be honest with you, I find a lot of your art featuring "unrealistic" girls-with tons of TandA, are normally commissions, and thus you draw what you are commissioned to. I find that most of your own characters are hardly sexist. Your girls all have MEAT. They aren't a bunch of anorexic, magically hourglasses-shaped, anime goddesses. That is one thing that I think men and woman alike can appreciate from you as an artist. You show that woman are beautiful as they ARE, and don't need to look like these photoshopped models to be attractive.

Anyone that wants to complain about your art just being all TandA, have obviously just been introduced to this wonderful thing we all call internet. 0_o
JessySketches Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012  Student General Artist
People get mad over the dumbest stuff. It doesn't matter if you are really good or suck, not everyone will be happy. Ever.
You keep doing your thing, because the quality of work is nothing short of amazing!
Djnightsilver Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012
You tell em Robaato!!
WickedPrince Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012
My first impression? The person who wrote this question is an idiot. Even most female artists and many homosexual ones too admit that doing girls is more fun because of all the curves. :) The only reason anyone asks that question is because they are a troll. NEVER let a troll get your goat. ;)
LoganPike Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012   General Artist
you don't want to get in to a conversation with some people, even fellow artists about this subject. there are people, like the one who messaged you, who think that if you are in the public eye in any way that you have a moral responsibility to draw the types of things that they feel are correct. so if you don't draw enough minorities, black mark. draw sexy women? black mark. it's gotten way too stupid, way too fast. i had a "discussion" once with some seemingly really cool, open minded creators a little while back. big name guys working on their own books and shit. their conclusion was that if you are not drawing women working as aerospace engineers before you show them taking off their clothes then you are a sexist asshole. never mind that we as creators produce things that we like and enjoy, nope, we have an obligation to promote gender equality, racial equality, etc.. etc.. my take on it is this. if you are a ten foot tall transgendered african rhinoceros with a lot of acne, every mainstream comic company, movie producer etc has to make art that represents you or else you need to get on your high horse and preach about the lack of quality entertainment featuring ten foot tall transgendered african white rhinos and how if they don't cave in to your selfish demands then they must be sexist, racist, a bigot, homophobe privileged so and so. i say that if you are upset enough to bitch at someone else because they don't have gay jewish trapeze-artist superheroes featured prominently in their art work then your time is better spent creating the type of entertainment that you are asking them for. stop pushing your ideals on to others, stop being lazy, and make the art that you want to see. it's not any one else's responsibility to fulfill your need to feel represented in the media.
Jinjuuryuu Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Dude, you don't even need to justify yourself. Your art is yours and no one can question it! You do whatever you want if you want to... I know I do!!! You draw curvy women because you like them, keep at it. Hell, I'm a 6' tall 250lbs, I'm fat but I draw muscular guys and never skinny or fat guys because I like warriors (and mostly dragon ball Z! :P) And I could care less what people think about my stuff except if it is constructive criticism that will help me refine my style. I can tell you right now, that person should be bashing on all those naked pictures of women instead of you!

Keep at it my fellow artist, I like your style so don't change it! ;)
Norm86 Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012
I would chalk it up to insecure people, I mean I'm a 300lb fat man and I don't go around telling women to stop drawing built topless dudes, or men either lol, because it's sexist. People often just take offence to things that clash with their own personal selves and then feel it's their moral duty to correct you on your, what they believe to be, wrong views or actions. People just need to relax and stop taking offence to things that honestly have no reason to take offence from. You draw curvy women so what? Should all the people out there who draw exceptionally lilith women be called down as well for drawing women in an unrealistic light of being super thin? I mean if your drawings of curvy women are sexist then by that logic aren't curvy women themselves sexist? They exist out there and there are people out there like yourself, and myself for that matter, who like curvy women but, there are also lots of people out there who like chubby women, or thin women, or women with red hair, or long legs, or short women, or tall women. And the same goes for women there are women out there who like, built men, thin men, or heavy men, or hairy men, or men with beer guts, or shaved heads, with beards or etc... I mean everyone has different preferences so it's not sexist it's just your personal preference and the people making these statements are just insecure of themselves. Anyway that turned out to be more than I was planning on writing but I went off on a bit of tangent there, possibly several lol, and oh well that's just how I feel about it anyway.
cha0t1ck1ng Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
simply amazing good sir i enjoyed this read and agree with all of it i rarely agree fully with some thing
3Rton Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
My dear lord I can't believe the amount of bullshit people keep telling to others nowadays..... sexist they say sigh.
fightingleaf Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I watched you for Rat Rage. I know you're awesome with or without TnA!
Toukatsu Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012
Any one who haterizes you for drawing what YOU want is a fool. Keep on rockin man.
Rob-Artboi Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Man what the f.... Tell them to eat sh*t and die.

ok, not really, but something close to that. You don't owe anyone an explanation when it comes to your art. You do you. Different strokes for different folks.
NobodyStudios Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Total respect for you man! People need to learn to respect an artist for not what they create but for who they are as an individual and how they impact the viewer inside. Some people just don't understand that some artist (not saying you) can be very fragile inside and give up by just one negative comment. Things like that is what easily destroys the core of an individual that may have a lot of potential as an artist in the future. Its terrible. :/

but omg, people just need to let it go already. >< I mean I am a female and I am not offended that you draw beautiful / sexy girls. Hell! Me and my husband work together as an artist team, and I love drawing women! To be honest i draw them more so than guys. I guess they are just more fun to draw! All those curves and hair. :heart: lol
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