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Wacom Interactive Pen Displays??????

Journal Entry: Tue Jul 3, 2012, 5:54 PM



Ok, so I was talking with :iconfooray: about Cintiqs and stuff. And he came across these. It's funny that we've never saw this before. If you know about this already, never mind.


They're not Cintiqs, but they're basically lower-level, and lower-priced Wacom display tablets. The smallest one which is a 15.6 inch one, starts at like $1250 on Wacom's site. The second size is a 17 inch 4:3 one starting at $1600, and the biggest one, which is a widescreen HD 21.5 inch one starts at $1900.

A lot of people ask me about Cintiqs and the prices, but I was never aware that Wacom had these available. The only downside is that these only have 512 levels of pressure sensitivity, but I figure if you're thinking of/using an iPad, you'll appreciate at least that and that that 512 shouldn't matter much.

Even that smallest model KILLS the base Cintiq 12WX's specs imho, for only an additional $250. And these are on eBay as well, meaning you can most likely get them cheaper. I guess the fact that Cintiqs and Intuos' get so much more attention than these that not many folks know about them, so I thought I'd share for all you folks wanting to get a Cintiq-like setup. It's all still Wacom, so you can still expect quality.

Here's the link to Wacom's site for the other comparisons/details.

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shortwings Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2012
Wait, are those wireless? D: /WANT
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:iconrobaato:
Robaato Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I don't think they're wireless...
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shortwings Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2012
Ah, so the iPad does still have some gimmick Wacom can't produce. Not that I know how good iPads are for drawing since I haven't tried, though I'd imagine not very.
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cynac Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2012
It's always good to shop around. I've got my Tablet Laptop for about 200 pounds.
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Lemalas Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2012  Student Writer
Good thing I'm a writer! I don't need dis fancy-schmancy stuff! >: D
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MatiasSoto Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
:lol: That's a good point
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LuisPuig Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2012  Professional General Artist
Cool.
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RabidElf Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
That is a very interesting find. Thank you for sharing it
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JDMagee Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
dude, i got an older model (recently) the 15wx for 300$ on amazon. works great! i went from a graphire 4 from like 2003. they have the same levels of pressure, (512 i believe) so it was a streamless transition for me. but i couldnt fathom spending $2000 for a piece of equipment that im not even sure i was going to use EVERYDAY. $300 for a taste of the good life was good enough for me!
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x-Beatrush-x Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I use an iPad to draw but most apps for it don't do anything higher 72 - 100dpi
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Kayshae Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I'd still get a Cintiq.
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G-flux Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I've noticed these before on their site, but thought they were still too expensive. For the technology, wacoms interactive displays are way over priced. They are really nothing but glorified monitors but have the prices of full fledged computers. I think much of it is due to fact that they have patents on their tech and that pretty much kills the competition. I've read that the patents run out this year though so in a couple of years we should see some new and different displays on the market and a definite price drop.

In fact there are already some companies overseas already doing business with cheaper displays.

[link]

[link]

The yiynova 19" display looks especially nice to me. And I found it on Amazon for about $500 and that to me is far more reasonable a price. [link] I really want one but I want to do more research on it first.

Another option is to mod your Intuos 4 into an interactive display. There are some really cool guys on the net who make kits to transform your intous 4 into a cintiq. [link] I was actually going to go this route until I learned you have to put it together your self. If I had time to tinker with stuff like that I'd do it but if I'm going to pay good money I want the damn thing already together when it gets here. I think if you pay a little extra they might put it together for you.

The route I ultimately went was tablet PC. I figure if I'm going to pay a 1000 dollars I might as well get the best of both worlds. I eventually chose the Asus ep121. The bigger brother to the Asus transformer. It's pretty nice. It's 12inches, 4gb of ram, 64gb hard drive and sports an Intel Dual-Core i5. It comes with a Bluetooth keyboard. It runs windows seven and my buddy just installed Windows 8 on his the other day. My only problem with it is that it's a little small. It's larger than most of the entertainment tablets out their but I always drew larger traditionally, for 11 X 17 is more my style. It functions great as a drawing pad but I wish I had something larger to ink and paint on. So I'll probably end up getting the yiynova 19" for my work station at home.

My dream is that they combine the worlds of the cintiq and the tablet PC. I think a 19 inch tablet PC as powerful as the Asus ep121 and as thin and light as the apple I pad would be the perfect artist tool. You could use it as a workstation display and it would be portable. That would be awesome.
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SuperCaterina Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2012
I knew of these!
There has been a time I made a personal research and could find these models...yet, they are way to expensive for me. Gotta continue to scan-the-lineart-and-use-the-mouse more. lol
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DmitryGrebenkov Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I have asus eee b121, it's with 512 lvls and 12" and this thing is like standalone notebook, and you don't need any wires or pc\mac near to connect it like Cintiqs. In case of take this device sit in the corner of sofa and do details on 800 zoom or whatever - this asus is realy good. Price around $1100-1200. ps cs 6 works perfect XD

I think this device is an option.
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DragenGD Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012
Cool find. Thanks for sharing. :)
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:iconinugaki:
Inugaki Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Student Digital Artist
is much more better using a tablet pc which they may have around 242 or 512 levels of pen pressure.
its like using a portable sketchbook with ur whole art studio when ur in the go :3
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QuesoGr7 Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm still making due with a wacom bamboo........yeah....>_>
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LAVirrey Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Student Filmographer
Ah I'd rather save up for the most expensive Cintiq. Go big or go home! So for the time being I'll be setting my sights on an intuos. Those Interactive Display tablets seem more for a business type of thing.

Now for something completely irrelevant to the journal. I see on you little stuff you are doing list that you are playing Tales of Graces f. It's been too long since I've last played a Tales of game, how is it?
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zeocloud Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Professional Filmographer
THis is quite interesting, will look into this further
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bennyfuentes Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I used to work on a Cintiq 12 model but the contrast and brightness was never of my liking, I bought a Viewsonic 21 inches Graphic Series model and the color managing is incredibly accurate, Im thinking of buying the 21.5 model, I think it will be worth it.
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Lightning-Powered Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Professional General Artist
Is there any other company that makes tablets as good as Wacom? Just curious cause I never hear about 'em.

(I use Wacom of course)
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r0-nin Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012
those look pretty nice. Still a bit out of my price range sadly =(


and for those of you who were looking for a portable tablet/computer, it might be worth looking into fujitsu. To my knowledge all of their models which are out now are built with wacom interactive screens with either the 512 or 1024 sensitivity. hope that might help someone as well. :)
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:iconlightningkin:
Lightningkin Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I am working hard to get the biggest Cintiq they have! I broke 1K not too long ago, but I will need over $2,000 to get the huge one. But I'm looking forward to it!
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Robaato Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
The 24HD is such a beaut! Good luck!
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Lightningkin Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks! You too!
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devonta-66 Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
wow thanks had no idea
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yuureikun Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012
My first Cintiq was the Cintiq 15x. I bought it back when the only current model offered was the 21ux which was well out of my price range at the time, and I was able to get the Cintiq 15x at a more reasonable price. It always worked well for me, 512 levels of pressure sensitivity always seemed fine, I couldn't really tell the difference to be perfectly honest. I now have a first generation 21ux Cintiq, which is much better, to say the least, due to the huge size and addition of shortcut key buttons. But the 15x always treated me well while I had it.
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Robaato Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Yeah, like to someone who isn't used to the pressure, it wouldn't bother them, so I figured why not just opt for one of these. But once you experience higher pressure sensitivity, it's hard to go back. :nod:
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macsorro Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012
I did not know. Thanks for posting this!
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:iconrobaato:
Robaato Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Sure thing! ^^
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Kh4-3vr Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Student Digital Artist
axiotron is coming out with a new modbook with 512 pressure levels, though this tablet you mention seems to be completely useless considering they cost just as much or more for less, its more of office type stuff
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Robaato Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
It's not a tablet, its a pen display. The Modbook is a tablet computer. These work just the same as a Cintiq (which is what I use). So it's only useless if you want a portable tablet PC/comp setup.
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Kh4-3vr Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2012  Student Digital Artist
thats what i meant my bad :P, but what im trying to say is why would you pay more for less? i think it doesnt even have any customizable buttons, cintiq gets so much hype because it works, but its damn expensive, anyways wacom needs to step it up, different companies are starting to compete and they seem to be in favor of the community since alot are cheaper like the yiynova
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Robaato Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
S'all good. :) Well it's for serious people, it's definitely an investment. My Cintiq paid for itself in like a week and a half. I tried a Yiynova, it just doesn't do it for me personally. From what I see Wacom has every right to charge what they charge, just like BMW and Ferrari does. It's for more serious minded users. For the lesser serious, of course you can get smaller Intuos and others.
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Kh4-3vr Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2012  Student Digital Artist
i agree wacom can charge that much since the technology is the best around, but i think they need to make some portable tablets for on the go, im kinda looking forward to the axiotron modbook but itll probably cost as much as the newest cintiq or more, since cintiqs are so hyped up alot of the beginners are crazy about them even though they dont realize its more for professionals than just hobbyists, nonetheless i wouldnt purchase any tablet other than wacom/penabled
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ScottyTheMan Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Student Digital Artist
It's neat but I'm quite satisfied with the Cinitiq I have now :)
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Robaato Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Of course you are! :lol:
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TheDJTC Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012
I kind of wanted to try to get a computer with wacom technology built in, a thinkpad specifically.

Though I can't afford even a used one yet. LOL

[link] - Penabled technology, kind of hard to find much info on this, or maybe I'm not looking hard enough...
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:iconrobaato:
Robaato Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I know for a fact the Axiotron Modbook/Modbook Pros have Wacom tech built in, and most of those in addition.
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TheDJTC Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012
Huh. Looks pretty cool, I kinda wanted a part-laptop, but I think this might work.

Except for the fact that they seems scared to reveal a price... one site says two grand. =| Also doesn't seem popular enough for amazon.

I dunno, I think I'll stick to trying to get a used thinkpad unless I strike it rich. XD
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:iconrobaato:
Robaato Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Yeah, the price is bananas with those Modbooks... then again... they're slapped on top of Macbook/Macbook Pros so it's only natural... Haha.

But yeah, this setup will work fine if you don't mind being confined to your desk at all times while you work. ^^
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mediano Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Fyi, HP tm2, which is a laptop pc, has the Wacom technology as well, which is named Wacom Penabled. tm2 or some other laptops those support Wacom Penabled work along with Wacom's pens for tablet pc' and Axiotron's pens, which they have them as pens for Modbook (which is actually a Wacom Penabled tablet pc wtihout a keyboard) So that's an option too. I have a tm2 and had an axiotron pen (lost it like two months ago) and I could say that it comes in handy. Though tm2's default options are not that strong with the performance unless you order a custom setup from the company.
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